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Monday 27 June 2022

Items for sale in Trade Hub Regions below the Trade Hub Prices

I see this quite often in Rens and Hek, less so in Dodixie and Amarr and never in Jita.

If, for example, the prices for an item in the Trade Hub are 350m isk i will occasionally see the item for sale in another station in the Region for, say, 280m isk.

The question therefore when i am at the Trade Hub is "what do i put my item for sale at?  350m or 280m?"

The answer is always 350m.

A buyer of the item is unlikely to leave the Trade Hub station to travel to another station to save 70m isk.  Certainly if the item is 11 jumps away and even if it is only 1 jump away.

It is dangerous enough leaving the trade hub let alone docking into station just to save 70m isk.

It is also time consuming.

Players are here to shoot at other ships, not traverse the universe to save a bit of isk.

Almost everyone will pay up or not pay at all.

In summary, ignore prices outside of Trade Hubs in the Trade Hub region.  The Trade Hub prices are all that matter.

Tuesday 14 June 2022

Slow Markets

Well, the markets have slowed down for sure.

Today my sales were only 2.2bn ISK generation a profit of 300m.

Since the end of Fanfest i have felt the market slow.

And this month it is not common for me to make 1bn ISK per day profit.

Hence, feels like we are in for a slow summer, a bit like last year.

I will stick to what i am doing but i could be in for a series of slow months and maybe there is a risk that i don't even make my target 10bn ISK profit per month!

Saturday 11 June 2022

Month end update - May 2022

As at the end of May 2022 my wealth is 389bn ISK after paying 5.1bn to upgrade to Omega for another 30 days for three accounts.  My Wealth increased by 21bn in May.

A poor month but the market does feel like it is slowing down and i fear June will be tougher still.

The summer months were tough last year also.

The top level summary of May was that i made sales of 198bn ISK which were sold for a 44bn ISK profit and after 19bn of taxes and fees and the 5bn Plex the increase in my wealth was 21bn ISK.

In the last 12 months i have made sales of 2.1 trillion isk and profits after everything including Plex of 305bn isk having spent 37bn on Plex.

The overall aim of what i do is to increase my wealth by at least 10bn per month.  So far i have beaten that in 14 / 21 months i have been running this venture and indeed in all of the last 10 months.



Things i talk about below:

 - summary of my activity

 - the 1bn daily profit target which i missed in May

 - Review of the aims i had for May which were mostly Achieved

 - reminder of how i do this

 - manufacturing efforts being nil this month (again)

 - Alts in other secondary locations

 - normal discussion on Sales in my main trading hubs of Jita, Amarr, Dodixie, Rens, Hek, Sobaseki, Tash-Murkon Prime and a quick review of the alpha alt accounts

 - the Outlook and Aims for June


Activity

I continue to come on once a day to update Sell orders and replace items sold.  About 30-45 minutes.

May was slow and more competitive.

Sales fell 9%: in my main trading locations sales were up in Dodixie and Hek but down in the rest (Amarr, Rens, Tash-Murkon and Sobaseki); sales in the Alpha accounts also fell.

For the alpha account locations - Arnon (Essence), Motsu (The Citadel), Agil (Khanid), Alentene (Verge Vendor), Orvolle (Placid), Delve (NPC station) - there is still now sign of combining any two to upgrade to Omega.

Manufacturing was nil - i did not have enough time to devote to it.  I suspect it will remain this way until i stop expanding into my current trade locations.

Planetary Interaction was also nil - same reason, not enough time.

In all, i did an average of 6.4bn sales per day making 0.8bn isk per day before buying the Plex.

I only had one or two days where sales were over 10bn isk in May.


Target 1bn profits per day after all taxes and plex costs

I have been talking about this aim though in the back of my mind i need to be sure i am not merely benefitting from elevated market activity following the changes made last year.

However, in May i missed this target breaking a seven month run.  I suspect i will miss it again in June.  The summer months do look like they will be slow, much like last year.

The main driver of the miss in May was the profit margin was only 22% - that reflects a more competitive month where i was forced to reduce prices more often to remain competitive.


Target sales to achieve 1bn profits per day

On the new taxation levels to make 30bn ISK per month i would need to cover:
 - Plex costs of 1.4 x 3 = 4.2bn
 - Courier costs 2% of sales (i.e. = purchase cost + collateral)
 - Broker Listing fees 1.5% of sales
 - Broker re-listing fees 0.3% of sales (lets assume all sales changed at least five times per month)
 - Transaction Taxes 3.6% of sales

Bottom line is that assuming i make my 25% profit margins then each 1bn of sales creates profits of 164m and these go towards buying Plex for the Omega accounts and whatever is left is reinvested in the business.

So, 30bn increase in wealth means i need to generate item profits for 50bn and assuming i make a 25% margin then sales of 200bn.  Or, in other words, daily sales of 6.7bn are needed.


Review of the May aims

1) Plex the three accounts - aim number one all the time - achieved

2) Hold sales in Dodixie - achieved, sales rose 12%

3) Hold sales in Amarr - missed, sales fell 21%

4) Hold sales in Rens - missed, sales fell 21%

5) Hold sales in Hek - achieved, sales rose 10%

6) Ramp up Sobaseki - failed, items for sale flat and sales flat

7) Ramp up Tush-Murkon Prime - achieved, though sales fell 34%

8) Pause Manufacturing for now - achieved

9) Develop Planetary Interaction - missed, nothing happened

10) Develop the alpha alts to see which can be upgraded to Omega - ongoing
 
In all, the May aims were mostly achieved though the overall aim of 1bn profits per day was missed.


Reminder of my Current Business.

For now i do inter-regional trading - buying from Jita to sell elsewhere.

I focus on slow moving but high margin items.  That keeps me away from fierce competition and i only need to sell an item once every 10 days to make good income.

For this side of my business, lets call it Merchanting or inter-regional trading, i want to generate profits of 10bn ISK per month after paying to Plex my account.  given i now have six Omega alts in Amarr, Dodixie, Rens, Hek, Sobaseki and Tash-Murkon i am hoping that this 10bn aim will be easily achieved.

My business model evolves over time.  As my wealth increases i focus on higher value items.  I had evolved to only buying items in Jita for over 100m ISK but this restricted the items i could sell so now i am going back to 70m ISK.

My main business is operated with three omega accounts (paid for with plex) with nine alts.

The main Trading alts sit in Dodixie, Amarr, Rens and Hek.  I have also omega alts in the new Trading locations of Sobaseki (in Lonetrek) and Tash-Murkon Prime (in Tash-Murkon).

The other three alts sit in Jita and buys from Sell Orders, has these items couriered to the alts in Dodixie / Amarr and Rens / Hek and Sobaseki / Tash-Murkon Pime who then put them onto these markets for sale.

The Jita alts also serve to sell items that i can no longer sell in my trading locations  Sort of clearance sales.

I also started in December to place alpha alts in other regions to see how it goes.  I just need two of them to demonstrate that they can combine to justify an Omega account.  Also, they need to take up very little of my time.  So far the Sobesaki and Tash-Murkon alts made the grade and were upgraded in one account.

The other regions so far are: Essence; Citadel and Khanid.  And i am in an NPC station in Delve.


Manufacturing

In November, i started down the manufacturing path.  I invested 12bn into it and made profits of 1.2bn after all taxes and costs.  December was slower and January even slower, February was nil as was March and April.

I spent more time focusing on the Trading business given it was going so well.

Hence, for now, Manufacturing is on hold.

It seems i am addicted to the allure of making profits of 1bn ISK per day and so that leaves no time to focus on activities outside of Inter-Regional trading.  That may prove to be a mistake if it leads to grind / burnout.


Other High Sec Trading Locations

I don't want to spend all my time on Eve doing Regional Trading (buying from one region, mainly Jita, to sell to another) but i do want to see if i can find really low competition but stable revenue streams of trading.

I have 6 other locations up and running and as i wrote in a prior blog post i have upgraded an account containing two of the alts to omega at the end of January.

These two locations: Tash-Murkon Prime and Sobaseki did have a poor February but a much better March and April whilst May was ok also.

Tash-Murkon Prime sales fell from 14.9bn ISK to 9.9bn ISK whilst Sobaseki was flat at 14.8bn given total sales in May of 25bn iSK which, once full skilled, would generate profits of 6.3bn ISK which is more than enough to cover the 1.7bn cost of the Plex.  And the competition here is very low that the time required to maintain these locations is minimal.

The other secondary trading locations made combined sales of 9.6bn which is down on the April sales 13.0bn.

So far, no sign of any other two locations looking like they may be upgraded to Omega.  I don't mind that.  At some stage i may open up in other High Sec Regions and / or try and relocated to better places in existing High Sec regions.

I will now be buying enough Plex to upgrade to 3 omega accounts per month.  At current prices that is 5.1bn ISK per month.


Delve

I want to experiment with selling in null/low Sec.  Hence, i have found an NPC station in Delve and started experimenting with items to sell.

It is not going well.  In May there was only 0.7bn sales.  Over the last six months there have been 7bn sales in total.

I will have to rethink this.


Plex

I have started to invest in Plex.  In all i now have 4000 Plex.

That said, given how well my Trading is going i am investing everything back into the market leaving nothing to buy surplus plex for the last four months.

My rule is to buy Plex on the day it is needed to continue with the Omega account and that i will continue to do.

That said, i like to store Plex for a rainy day or unless i take a break.  I really need 6 months buffer.  So, to cover 3 accounts for 6 months is 9000 Plex required


Analysis of Trading Profits

In total i made 198bn ISK of sales in May which made me item profits of 44bn ISK.

The below shows that a decline in sales of 9%, a margin decline of 19% (27.6% to 22.4%) and an increase in the cost of Plex all conspired to bring profits down by 40%.

(item profit is the simply difference between sales done vs costs spent buying products, so before fees and taxes.  Because i don't yet invest in items other than Plex i don't make any allowance for items still in stock - in part because i don't track the cost per item spent).

Overall, sales fell by 9% in May which reflects slower markets in most areas though sales did rise in Dodixie and Hek. 

The best performing location remains Dodixie, followed by Amarr then Rens and then Hek.  So not much change there.

i am still ramping up Sobaseki and Tash-Murkon.

Jita, which is where i sell items that won't sell in the Regions i now also sell some Blueprints in.  Trade is slow and competitive - so sales were only 6bn but i don't mind that.  I rarely have more than 5 items for sale in Jita these days.

From all these sales i made item profits of 44bn.

This therefore was an item margin of 22.4% (44/198) vs my target of 25%.  So a poor result and the main cause of profits being heavily down in May.  Competition was more fierce resulting in prices being cut more often and by more than normal to stay competitive.

Manufacturing sales were nil.

My trading margins had been in the 25-27% range since April 2021 having before that been in the 28-32% range.  So May was a poor let down.  I hope this is temporary.

From this I then need to take a whole series of costs off before i get to my Business profits:

Courier Fees: i aim to pay 2% of sales value to the Courier = 2% x 198= 4.0bn

Sales tax cost me 7.5bn ISk (=3.79% of sales) - the Dodixie, Amarr, Rens and Hek characters are level 5 in Accounting (=sales tax of 3.6%), the new omega accounts are in the process of taking the skill to level 5 and of course all the alpha alt accounts are only Level 1 (=sales tax of 8%).

Broker Fees costs me 7.3bn (=4.2% of sales).  Now, i can break this down into the initial listing fee of 1.5% (because i am Level 5 Broker Relations on both main characters and lets to make the sums easier and include all the alpha alts) and therefore the rest is the cost of changing the price which is 0.30% a shot (i may have that 0.30% completely wrong!).

So, Listing Fee = 1.5% x 198= 3.0bn and so the Relisting Fee = 7.3-3.0 = 4.3bn which is 2.2% of sales.  That shows that i do change prices quite often, bias to Amarr.

This takes my 'Business Profits' to 25.6bn ISK for May vs 38.7bn in April.  This is what 20-30 minutes a day in May gave me.

So, the post-tax margin is 13.0% (26/198) and so even missed the 15% target.

The rest of the alpha alts will be high tax payers until i decide which to Omega.

And then from those 'Business Profits' i buy Plex for 5.1bn isk to extend the Omega by 30 days for three accounts.

That, therefore, is the roadmap from making 198bn of sales and seeing my wealth increase by 21bn as a result.


Items i am selling in Dodixie, Amarr, Rens, Hek, Sobaseki and Tash-Murkon

I sell blueprints, skill books, implants and ship equipment.  Blueprints are making a steady come back - they are lumpy sales and slow, but thats how i like it.  Mining equipment is slowing as more traders enter this market.

Implants are still doing ok - i am slowly expanding into more types and moving up the ISK value curve.  I now keep to implants costing over 100m ISK and up to 1.5bn ISK.  They don't sell well but when they do i tend to get a whole family sold at a time.  Again, that's how i like it.  A billion or so of investment can take 30 days to sell.

Skill books are a low income generator for me but there are still a few nice sellers.  I suspect skills books are now my lowest income generator.

Ship Equipment is doing well though the mining equipment sales have clearly slowed as it has become more competitive and demand does not feel as strong anymore.  But equipment that related to general PVE/PVP is doing well.

Rigidly sticking to the 25% margin target.  Courier fees and taxes now take 9% of that to bring me to a theoretical 16%.



Dodixie Seller character

This remains my main character and has regained its slot as the largest seller.

I have almost 100bn ISK of Sell Orders on the market.

I have now trained all the relevant skills to Level 5.  The skills relevant to Trading that i have are:

Accounting: Level 5; means i am charged 3.6% of the sales price on completed sale vs the normal 8%.  The base used to be 5% and i used to be able to get it down to 2.25% - so Sales Tax (Transaction Tax) has gone up.

Broker Relations: Level 5; means i am charged 1.5% to list an item for sale vs the normal 3.0%.  The base used to be 5% and i used to be able to get it down to 3% - so the Broker Listing fees have gone down.

Advanced Broker Relations: Level 5; means i can reduce the cost of changing the price of items i already have for sale.  With no skill i would be charged 1.5% to change every price.  Level 5 has brought this down to 0.30%.

Trade: Level 5; increases the number of items i can list for sale by 4 per level.

Retail: Level 5; increases the number of items i can list for sale by 8 per level

Wholesale: Level 5; increases the number of items i can list by 16 per level

Marketing: Level 3; this allows me to set up Sell Orders in stations other than the one i am in; it also allowed me to look to increase my Contracting skills which i will need to sell my BPO copies from invention

Given the level 5 Trade, level 5 Retail and level 5 wholesale, i am able to post 145 items for sale (5 + (5x4) + (5x8) + (5x16)).  With no Trading skills you can post up to 5 sell orders



Amarr Seller character

This is the most competitive location but the sales and profits remain good.

I have 60bn ISK of Sell Orders on the market.

I have now trained all the relevant skills to Level 5.  The skills relevant to Trading that i have are:

Accounting: Level 5; means i am charged 3.6% of the sales price on completed sale vs the normal 8%.  The base used to be 5% and i used to be able to get it down to 2.25% - so Sales Tax (Transaction Tax) has gone up.

Broker Relations: Level 5; means i am charged 1.5% to list an item for sale vs the normal 3.0%.  The base used to be 5% and i used to be able to get it down to 3% - so the Broker Listing fees have gone down.

Advanced Broker Relations: Level 5; means i can reduce the cost of changing the price of items i already have for sale.  With no skill i would be charged 1.5% to change every price.  Level 5 has brought this down to 0.30%.

Trade: Level 4; increases the number of items i can list for sale by 4 per level.

Retail: Level 5; increases the number of items i can list for sale by 8 per level

Wholesale: Level 4; increases the number of items i can list by 16 per level

Marketing: Level 2; this allows me to set up Sell Orders in stations other than the one i am in; i don't use this really

Given the level 4 Trade, level 5 Retail and Wholesale Level 4, i am able to post 125 items for sale (5 + (4x4) + (5x8) + (4x16).



Rens and Hek characters

I still think of these two locations as really the same - but i am finding they have different dynamics.


In Rens:

I have 70bn ISK of Sell Orders on the market.

Accounting: Level 5; means i am charged 3.6% of the sales price on completed sale vs the normal 8%.

Broker Relations: Level 5; means i am charged 1.5% to list an item for sale vs the normal 3.0%.

Advanced Broker Relations: Level 4; means the relist fee is just over 0.3%

Trade: Level 5; increases the number of items i can list for sale by 4 per level.

Retail: Level 5; increases the number of items i can list for sale by 8 per level

Wholesale: Level 3; increases the number of items i can list by 16 per level

Marketing: Level 2; this allows me to set up Sell Orders in stations other than the one i am in; i don't use this really

Given the level 5 Trade, level 5 Retail and level 3 Wholesale, i am able to post 113 items for sale (5 + (5x4) + (5x8) + (3x16)).  That is plenty for now but i am still trying to expand the number of items for sale.


In Hek:

I have 51bn ISK of Sell Orders on the market.

Accounting: Level 5; means i am charged 3.6% of the sales price on completed sale vs the normal 8%.  The base used to be 5% and i used to be able to get it down to 2.25% - so Sales Tax (Transaction Tax) has gone up.

Broker Relations: Level 5; means i am charged 1.5% to list an item for sale vs the normal 3.0%.  The base used to be 5% and i used to be able to get it down to 3% - so the Broker Listing fees have gone down.

Advanced Broker Relations: Level 5; means i can reduce the cost of changing the price of items i already have for sale.  With no skill i would be charged 1.5% to change every price.  Level 5 has brought this down to 0.30%.

Trade: Level 5; increases the number of items i can list for sale by 4 per level.

Retail: Level 5; increases the number of items i can list for sale by 8 per level

Wholesale: Level 3; increases the number of items i can list by 16 per level

Marketing: Level 2; this allows me to set up Sell Orders in stations other than the one i am in; i don't use this really

Given the level 5 Trade, level 5 Retail and level 3 Wholesale, i am able to post 113 items for sale (5 + (5x4) + (5x8) + (3x16)).  That is plenty for now but i am still trying to expand the number of items for sale.



New(ish) omega alts: Lonetrek, Tash-Murkon

I am slowly building up the items for sale and trading skill levels.

In Lonetrek (Sobaseki) I have 32bn ISK of Sell Orders on the market.

In Tash-Murkon (Tash-Murkon Prime) I have 63bn ISK of Sell Orders on the market.

I may continue to expand into other items but more slowly from here.

The Sales in these two locations do more than enough to justify being Omega and the competition is practically zero.



alpha alts: Essence, Citadel, Khanid, Verge Vendor, Placid and Delve

The only relevant skills i can train are Broker Relations to Level 5 and Trade to Level 3.

Therefore, i can post 17 items for sale and pay Transaction Taxes of 8%, Listing Fees of 2.4% and re-listing fees of 1.2%.

Now, so far there is no competition so no re-listing fees.  hence, my costs of sale are the courier fees of 2% + 8% transaction fees + 2.4% Listing fees = 12.4%.

Assuming i stick to my 25% item margin target then my bottom line profit margins are 12.6%.  i.e. every 1bn sales generates 126m profits vs 164m for the Omega accounts.  That is, 70% of Omega levels.  And i am limited to 17 sales slots - so at best they are alts that are trying out to see if they are good enough to be upgraded to Omega!

The two best sellers are Alentene in Verge Vendor and Arnon in Essence.  Combined they are doing around 6bn ISK of sales but i need 11bn to justify upgrading to Omega.



Courier Contracts

Each night, i get home from work and determine what i need to sell in all the locations.

The time is taken changing prices were necessary (especially Amarr given it is competitive) and then figuring out what to sell with the ISK made from the prior 24 hours sales.

I have a list of items that feature regularly and i add to this list as time goes by.  So is a case of checking Jita prices vs current location prices.

It takes a minute to check all the alt accounts.

To look up prices in Eve I am using Eve Tycoon which seems to have more of the latest items in its market browser.  I used to use evemarketer but i just got used to Eve Tycoon.

Each night i courier about 5 to 15bn ISK of items from Jita.  Used to be 2-10bn but things are better these days.  The total cargo volume is 10-250m3 per shipment.  So small but valuable items.  But this allows the couriers to use small, fast ships with much less chance of being ganked.  So there is always someone willing to pick up the contract quickly.

I pay a generous 1.5 to 2.0% of collateral as fees.  I am more interested in getting my items onto the market quickly than penny pinching on distribution costs.




Nothing, yet, todo with my Eve Business ventures but just noting that i set up a website site eveeconomy.com which takes the monthly economic data provided by CCP and visualises it in chart form.

Loads of charts and more i can add.

The data inputs changed a bit in February so i need to redo the code . . . . 

I need to work out how to render the charts faster - right now they are accessed from a google drive given that is the way i have worked out how to update multiple charts at once quickly.

Let me know what you think and what else i should add.



Outlook

June will have eight conservative aims - I feel the market is slowing.

1) Plex the three omega accounts - aim number one all the time

2) Hold sales in Dodixie to at least 90% of May

3) Hold sales in Amarr to at least 90% of May

4) Hold sales in Rens to at least 90% of May

5) Hold sales in Hek to at least 90% of May

6) Ramp up Sobaseki to at least 90% of May

7) Ramp up Tush-Murkon Prime to at least 90% of May

8) Develop the alpha alts to see which can be upgraded to Omega
 

The daily sales in May averaged 6.4bn.

For the 10bn profit target: If i assume i need to make 10bn + 5.1bn income per month (=15.1bn) and i assume i can achieve 15.0% margin then i need to make monthly sales of 101bn and so daily sales of 3.4bn.

So far i have achieved this in December 2020, January, March, April, August, September, October, November, December 2021, January 2022, February 2022, March 2022, April 2022 and May 2022.  I started in August 2020.


Current wealth is 389bn ISK made up from:
  • Plex held as an investment 13bn ISK
  • Items in hanger for sale 1bn ISK
  • Buy orders on the market 0.0bn ISK
  • items for sale 435bn ISK
  • less a 20% provision 87bn ISK*
  • ISK in wallet 27bn ISK

When i add up my wealth, I don't count assets I use in the course of my business such as ships, fittings etc nor do I add back any expenses such as skills purchased etc.  The wealth I disclose is made up of items that are ISK or are in the process of being converted to ISK or are used to generate isk that can be readily resold back onto the market.  Any ships or skills or fittings etc i buy are counted as expenses in that month.

* I take a 20% provision against the items I am selling.  Eve calculates wealth by adding up the value of the sell orders hence it is possible to increase your wealth by buying an item for 100m ISK and putting a sell order for 120m ISK (in this case your wealth would increase by 20m ISK).  For me, I want my wealth to be calculated at cost.  I know that the value of my sell orders will likely fall over time as I update my orders downwards as competition reduces their prices before my items are sold.  Hence the 20% provision is my best guess as to what the maximum reduction I would need to make to my sell orders as a whole before they are sold.  In an ideal world I would value my sell orders at the value which I bought the items for.