a blog of my experiences and observations of making ISK in Eve Online, from the beginning - three separate periods starting each time from zero and new alts (May 2013 - February 2017, started again in March 2019 - September 2019, and now started again in September 2020 onwards)
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Sunday, 1 February 2026
Project Orca - the sale
Saturday, 24 January 2026
Project Orca - manufacturing & Sell Order
Wednesday, 14 January 2026
Project Orca - the cost, time and materials
Saturday, 10 January 2026
Project Orca
Wednesday, 4 June 2025
Manufacturing - taken the plunge
At the start of May, I took the plunge and I started up manufacturing properly.
May Numbers
I made sales of 26 billion isk and profits of 2.7 billion isk.
The Business Model - Revenues
I am going to use manufacturing to generate two types of revenue streams.
Firstly, to use it in the traditional manner of manufacturing an item and then putting it up for sale either in Jita or another of my trade locations directly.
Secondly, I will use it to effectively bring down the in-price of the items that I sell with my traditional trading business. So what I mean by this is it normally I buy from Sell orders in Jita and I courier those items out to all my trade locations and I put up for sale there. In this case of using manufacturing I will be able to get closer to the Buy price in Jita and therefore when I put those items up for sale in my trade locations I will command a greater margin. And therefore the way I will think about this is the difference between my manufacturing price and the Jita Sell order price will be the revenue for manufacturing business and then my trade operations take the usual profit of the difference between the Jita Sell order and what it manages to sell in its trade location.
Business Model - Manufacturing Locations
For now, my manufacturing will be done at a low sec location close to Hek and in Jita.
I have still not really worked out how best to transport high volume raw materials or minerals to my low sec location therefore for now where the item requires high volumes of minerals I will be using Jita until I get my head around all of this.
Business Model - types of item I will manufacture
Therefore the type of item I manufacture will be very similar to the business model are using my trade operations. In other words I will not be manufacturing high volume items. I’ll be manufacturing items that aren’t for sale in my normal trade locations and where the manufacturing price is closer to the buy price at Jita.
In other words high value, low volume, low competition, slow moving items.
Keeping track of profits
Because the vast majority of my profits will be made through my normal trading activities I will need to think of a way of keeping track of my manufacturing profits that doesn’t require me putting in individual items into a spreadsheet.
The way I’ve decided to do this is I will resurrect an old character, in fact my first character called croda as it happens, and I will use that character to purchase all the materials I’ll be using. I’ll leave that character in Alpha at the moment - update, i have now upgraded this to Omega.
This character will then contract all the raw materials free of cost to my Omega characters who are high on manufacturing skills.
Those characters will manufacture the item. it doesn’t matter who manufactures the items, I will capture all the manufacturing costs through the Excel addin.
Once the item is manufactured the finished item will be contracted back to the Alpha account Croda who sell it back to my Omega accounts who can then courier it to the trade location to be sold.
Therefore, using the Excel Aladdin, I can keep a track of all the wrong material costs all the manufacturing costs and all the revenues that the manufacturing generates for me.
. . . . . . now that i have upgraded that account to Omega which also has Trade Characters in Dodixie and Hek, i will be using these characters to sell the items as best i can.
Observations to date
I am just starting up so I have a lot of items I need to manufacture to put up for sale in my normal trade locations.
So you would expect almost all my revenues in manufacturing at this point to be internal sales from my manufacturing operation to my trade operation and therefore effectively you’d expect all my revenues in these initial months to be the difference between the Jita sale price and the Jita purchase price because the manufacturing effectively means I’m bringing these items into my operation at the Jita buy price.
Monday, 7 April 2025
Manufacturing - going for it
Saturday, 1 March 2025
Manufacturing Taxes / System Index
There are four types of "taxes" directly related to Manufacturing: System Index; Facility Tax; SCC surcharge; Alpha Clone Tax.
Sunday, 23 February 2025
Starting Manufacturing
In Eve, manufacturing is the process whereby raw materials are taken and combined to form new items which either are the final end product or components to combine further to make the end product.
There were three drivers of this renewed attempt at going into Manufacturing:
Tuesday, 8 December 2020
youtube videos - Eve Online: Building my industrial empire
Sunday, 9 March 2014
February Update
February, March and April will be slow given real life commitments are taking over. Indeed, i don't expect to log in much during March at all.
Therefore, during these months i am only selling the T1 items i manufacture and only trading other items where i make at least 15m ISK profits and 20% margins.
My strategy is to focus on low volume but high margin items that i either manufacture or buy (off sell orders) in Jita to sell in Dodixie / Hek / Rens / Amarr.
I don't have standings of note.
Despite being away from Eve for 2 weeks in February or so my wealth increased by 10.0bn ISK to 83.9bn ISK, which is an average of 321m ISK per day. I made a blunder which cost me 800m ISK.
For those able to devote much more time to Eve, one way of reading this blog is to see how little time is required to generate sufficient ISK to plex your own account.
I have 2 accounts with 6 alts in total.
- One one account: I have a trader at Dodixie and a trader at Hek which sell items that have been hauled there from Jita; and I have a manufacturer in the Lonetrek region that sells items in Jita and sends items to the traders in Dodixie, Hek, Amarr and Rens to sell.
- On the other account: I have a buyer in Jita that is is only there to buy items in Jita to send to the traders in Dodixie, Hek, Amarr and Rens; I have an alt that is skilling up in Invention which currently sits in Amarr to sell the items manufactured by my Lonetrek manufacturer; and i now also have an alt that sits in Rens to also sell the items manufactured by my Lonetrek manufacturer.
I am now buying 2 Plex a month to finance my two accounts. Up until December 2013 i had only needed to buy 1 Plex per month. So, 1.2bn ISK per month costs going forwards. This month i benefited from some kind soul upgrading their account having used the link to the right >>>>>>>>>
I biggest headache was that i was sitting on too much ISK which was not invested in the market. I am sitting on 25bn ISK which is dead money. I know two things about that ISK. Firstly, it will be there tomorrow with no chance of making a profit (or a loss). Secondly, there is inflation in Eve so in effect it is not keeping up with the cost of living in Eve - in other words, its value to me in the future is lower than its value to me today.
I decided to invest 8.5bn ISK in 10 Plex and indeed have increased this investment into a further 20 Plex. As of writing this post, i now have 30 Plex worth 19.1bn ISK. At some stage i will write a post detailing my thinking behind this - but i expect to continue to invest all profits made each month into Plex from here.
Dodixie trader: Life remains good for this trader.
Items for sale rose back to December's level of 22.0bn ISK from the prior month's 17.7bn ISK.
I sell manufactured items that my manufacturer makes in Lonetrek, and any item i can find that makes profits of over 15m ISK, has a profit margin of over 20% and is a slow seller. I.e. ship equipment, implants, ship modifications, a few skillbooks and a few blueprints.
I am now completely out of station trading.
The alt is currently using 80 of the 141 trading slots - that may go down in February.
This alt pays 0.80% broker fees to post an order and a further 0.90% sales tax on a successful sale. No longer training.
There are no medium term goals for this alt – for now i will focus on the manufactured items from my alt in Lonetrek and selling expensive items hauled from Jita.
Hek trader: Life remains good.
Items for sale rose to December's level of 14.2bn from the prior month's 12.8bn ISK.
Much like the Dodixie trader I sell manufactured items that my manufacturer makes in Lonetrek, and any item i can find that makes profits of over 15m ISK, has a profit margin of over 20% and is a slow seller. I.e. ship equipment, implants, ship modifications, a few skillbooks and a few blueprints. Other than the manufacturer items, there are very few common items i sell in Dodixie and Hek.
Following this move i now use 63 of the 129 available sell slots - this may fall as i focus on the more expensive items to sell.
Pays 0.80% broker fees to post an order and a further 0.90% sales tax on a successful sale. No longer training.
Amarr Trader: Going very well.
Only really fully started up in mid December and focuses solely on items manufactured by my alt in the Lonetrek region. During February this alt's sales were 5.6bn ISK (7.3bn prior month) and i suspect the profits were 2.8bn ISK. Items for sale at the month end were 9.7bn ISK.
At present, i have no plans to expand into selling other items - i will stick to selling the items my manufacturer produces. Amarr, being the second largest trade hub, can be very competitive.
Following this move i now use 23 of the 37 available sell slots - i am increasing the number of available slots and looking for a few expensive items to sell.
Pays 1.0% broker fees to post an order and a further 1.5% sales tax on a successful sale. No longer training.
Rens Trader: second full month
Started just before xmas and also focuses solely on items manufactured by my alt in the Lonetrek region. During January this alt made sales of 2.1bn ISK (3.7bn prior month) and i suspect profits of 1.0bn ISK. Items for sale at the month end were 6.7bn ISK.
Rens is a slower trade up so i did not expect to see great things - but this is much better than i thought. I was hoping for this alt to earn the Plex per month for this account but is infact earning 3 Plex per month.
I have no plans to expand into selling other items - i will stick to selling the items my manufacturer produces.
Following this move i now use 37 of the 37 available sell slots.
Pays 1.0% broker fees to post an order and a further 1.5% sales tax on a successful sale. No longer training.
This alt sells its items in Jita and contracts to Push Industries to haul items to the traders in Dodixie / Hek / Amarr / Rens to sell.
I have a list of 59 items i focus on to sell, currently selling 27 of them in Jita and 33 in Dodixie, Hek, Amarr and Rens. The other items that i watch have too low a profitability.
I own 44 blueprints worth over 1bn ISK, most of which have already comfortably paid for themselves.
This alt may have plateaued at 6 to 8bn ISK sales per month for now. During the month it made sales of 6.7bn (vs 7.9bn ISK in the prior month) and estimated profits of 3.3bn ISK. It currently has 7.3bn ISK of sell orders.
And all this takes is 15 minutes update time a day.
I have seeded a new market in Lonetrek - lets see how that goes. Very slow so far!
Outlook: March and April are going to be busy times for me in RL, hence i suspect i will be back to making 7bn ISK per month.
Current Wealth:
- Plex x2 = 1.2bn ISK
* I take a 20% provision against the items I am selling. Eve calculates wealth by adding up the value of the sell orders hence it is possible to increase your wealth by buying an item for 100m ISK and putting a sell order for 120m ISK (in this case your wealth would increase by 20m ISK). For me, I want my wealth to be calculated at cost until i finally hold it as ISK. I know that the value of my sell orders will likely fall over time as I update my orders downwards as competition reduces their prices before my items are sold. Hence the 20% provision is my best guess as to what cost is or at least the maximum reduction I would need to make to my sell orders as a whole before they are sold.
Wednesday, 4 December 2013
November Update
As a reminder, i spend 30 to 45 minutes during the weekdays on Eve.
Despite being away from Eve for over half the month my wealth increased by 12.1bn ISK to 42.7bn ISK, which is an average of 404m ISK per day
I was lucky in that another player's blunder earned me 1.5bn ISK - so reversing out this luck i saw an increase in wealth of 10.6bn ISK which is an average of 353m ISK per day. Still, not bad and still would be my best month ever.
The time constraint of spending 30 to 45 minutes only per day that i am around forces my businesses to focus on high value but low volume strategies.
For those able to devote much more time to Eve, one way of reading this blog is to see how little time is required to generate sufficient ISK to plex your own account.
I have 2 accounts with 5 alts in total.
- One one account: I have a trader at Dodixie and a trader at Hek which sell items that have been hauled there from Jita; and I have a manufacturer in the Lonetrek region that sells items in Jita and sends items to the traders in Dodixie and Hek to sell.
- On the other account: I have a buyer in Jita that is is only there to buy items in Jita to send to the traders in Dodixie and Hek; and I also have an alt that is skilling up in Invention.
I am now buying a Plex a month to finance my second account and from January i will be buying two Plex per month as my Main account will need financing. I have been fortunate enough that some people have been using the Buddy Programme link to the right >>>> which has financed my Main account to the end of the year.
As ever, i sit with too much surplus ISK which needs to be invested. Current surplus is 14.2bn ISK – it is dead money.
The main drivers to my improvement in November i suspect were:
- Firstly, finding more expensive items to sell which, whilst lower margin, make me very high ISK levels of profits. I.E. if i sell an item for 800m ISK that i bought for 700m ISK it is only 12.5% margin ((800-700)/800) vs my target 20% but is still a good 100m ISK profit before taxes,
- Secondly, my manufacturer is now selling its items in Dodixie and Hek, as well as Jita - i.e. is now selling in 3 trade hubs instead of 1.
Dodixie trader: Life remains good for this trader.
Items for sale have risen to 16.4bn ISK from the prior months of 11.3bn ISK. The addition of items manufactured by my manufacturing alt and the inclusion of more expensive items to sell has boosted the value of the sell orders.
I neglected the station trading side of this alt during November given lack of time, hence buy orders have fallen to 1.3bn ISK from 1.6bn ISK. At present, updating the station trading orders tends not to happen given my daily time constraints.
The alt is currently using 130 of the 141 trading slots.
This alt pays 0.80% broker fees to post an order and a further 0.90% sales tax on a successful sale. No longer training.
There are no medium term goals for this alt – i suspect i may move out of station trading and continue to seek higher priced items to move form Jita to Dodixie to sell as selling any additional items my manufacturing alt decides to produce.
Hek trader: Life is speeding up now. My pre-xmas plan to find new income sources for this trader is coming through.
The manufacturing alt keeps this trader supplied with the high margin items i am manufacturing to sell in Dodixie, Hek and Jita.
Just after the period end i am now expanding into new items to sell which are more expensive and, at Hek at least, could carry very high margins given there is very little competition - we will see.
Following this move i now use 123 of the 129 available sell slots. At this rate i will be dropping some of the low margin skillbooks that i am selling.
Pays 0.80% broker fees to post an order and a further 0.90% sales tax on a successful sale. No longer training.
It currently has 2.6bn ISK of sell orders and another 1.4bn ISK of items in manufacture compared to 3.4bn at the end of last month.
The new account: I started a new account in September which will cost me a plex a month to maintain, i.e. 600m ISK per month at todays prices.
The first alt I am training up in Research skills so that it can go down the Invention path. I thought i had trained it up sufficiently to start Invention but reading around the subject has forced me to train up the skills further. I am hoping to at least make a start in Invention this month.
During December i will be away for a week on business and then no holiday over xmas - hence, i suspect December will not be as good a month as November or indeed October.
Current Wealth:
- Plex 600,000,000 ISK

* I take a 20% provision against the items I am selling. Eve calculates wealth by adding up the value of the sell orders hence it is possible to increase your wealth by buying an item for 100m ISK and putting a sell order for 120m ISK (in this case your wealth would increase by 20m ISK). For me, I want my wealth to be calculated at cost until i finally hold it as ISK. I know that the value of my sell orders will likely fall over time as I update my orders downwards as competition reduces their prices before my items are sold. Hence the 20% provision is my best guess as to what cost is or at least the maximum reduction I would need to make to my sell orders as a whole before they are sold.
