I am still pondering where to set up my low/null sec trading location. My current location in H-PA29 V in the Venal Region is not working as hoped. Probably not yet made a billion of sales since i set up back Null Sec trading in August 2015 and hence it is not yet covering the set up costs.
That said, i have better news on my ability to travel in low/null sec. Since i set up with the current ship below i have not been destroyed (famous last words, i am sure i will be nailed at some point).
Plenty of attempts made on me, all the damage has come from smart bombs as i warp to a gate.
I still get a small sense of victory as i warp through bubbles that spring up in front of me or gate jump having received damage from smart bomb attacks.
So far, so good - i have been able to go where i want.
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a blog of my experiences and observations of making ISK in Eve Online, from the beginning - three separate periods starting each time from zero and new alts (May 2013 - February 2017, started again in March 2019 - September 2019, and now started again in September 2020 onwards)
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Sunday, 31 January 2016
Sunday, 24 January 2016
Financial Review of 2015
Now that 2015 has come to an end, time to take stock of where my business stands financially and how it did in 2015.
My Strategy
My Corporation holds the ISK balance and Plex.
The 8.7bn of items sitting in Jita are items stored there to replace items sold in the trading locations. I would have had them couriered to those locations in early January.
Given how busy Real Life has been i have not really changed what i sell much. If anything, i have started selling the T2 variants and some Blueprints that typically sell for over 1bn ISK.
Therefore, when i put that altogether in the mix, and my Trading / Manufacturing made me 78bn ISK in 2015 vs 90bn ISK in 2014 which is a fairer reflection of real life being busier.
My Strategy
As a reminder, i have 2 accounts and so 6 alts in total. One alt in each trading hub (Jita / Amarr / Dodixie / Hek / Rens) and a second on Jita trying to make my null sec trading work. Each of the alts (except the null sec trader) also sells into a second region, the Jita alt sells into two regions. In all, therefore, i am selling into 10 markets (i don't sell into Jita).
My strategy remains unchanged. I am looking for slow moving products to sell at high profit margins (minimum 20%). This is in contrast to other (much richer) traders out there who look for fast moving but low margin items to sell. My style suits my play time. I am trying to avoid the competition whereas the other traders take them on (and win).
An item that I can buy for 100m ISK from a Jita sell order and sell in Dodixie for 130m in 5 days time with no maintenance to the sell order is fine with me. In fact, that would be just ideal. If i had 5 products that did that then i would earn 150m ISK over 5 days for 500m ISK invested. That is close to getting me a Plex a month. (before taxes etc etc but you see my point)
My overriding aim is that each business venture must be able to Plex an account per month and my total time spent on my businesses each day must not exceed 45 minutes.
As a general rule, if I am able to log on for at least 45 minutes each day then I make 7bn ISK per month. When real life is busy I make less (sometimes close to nil) and other times I make more.
My strategy remains unchanged. I am looking for slow moving products to sell at high profit margins (minimum 20%). This is in contrast to other (much richer) traders out there who look for fast moving but low margin items to sell. My style suits my play time. I am trying to avoid the competition whereas the other traders take them on (and win).
An item that I can buy for 100m ISK from a Jita sell order and sell in Dodixie for 130m in 5 days time with no maintenance to the sell order is fine with me. In fact, that would be just ideal. If i had 5 products that did that then i would earn 150m ISK over 5 days for 500m ISK invested. That is close to getting me a Plex a month. (before taxes etc etc but you see my point)
My overriding aim is that each business venture must be able to Plex an account per month and my total time spent on my businesses each day must not exceed 45 minutes.
As a general rule, if I am able to log on for at least 45 minutes each day then I make 7bn ISK per month. When real life is busy I make less (sometimes close to nil) and other times I make more.
Current Wealth
My current wealth stands at 266bn ISK.
My wealth is calculated by adding all Sell Orders less 20% value of Sell Orders as a provision against cutting prices over time + Buy Orders + Items in Production + Items for sale in hangers +Items for sale in transit + ISK balance + Plex.
I don't value BPOs or BPCs or Ships or Towers etc.
If i did not have that 20% provision (=34bn ISK) against my Sell Orders (=171bn ISK) then my Wealth would be 300bn. But i like the concept of this provision - it reminds me that i will doubtless need to reduce the prices to shift the items to sell as competition comes in.
When i look at how the sell orders are split over my alts, it is noteworthy that my Amarr business is smaller than Dodixie. This is a reflection that Amarr, whilst being a large market, is quite competitive. In fact, i suspect i am slowly starting to leave Amarr. I have always found Dodixie works best for my strategy.
The Jita sell orders are actually sell orders in two regions near Jita. I don't sell more than a few items in jita - way too competitive.
When i look at how the sell orders are split over my alts, it is noteworthy that my Amarr business is smaller than Dodixie. This is a reflection that Amarr, whilst being a large market, is quite competitive. In fact, i suspect i am slowly starting to leave Amarr. I have always found Dodixie works best for my strategy.
The Jita sell orders are actually sell orders in two regions near Jita. I don't sell more than a few items in jita - way too competitive.
My Corporation holds the ISK balance and Plex.
The 8.7bn of items sitting in Jita are items stored there to replace items sold in the trading locations. I would have had them couriered to those locations in early January.
Profits made in 2015
In 2015 i made 109bn ISK vs 96bn in 2014. That equates to about 300m per night.
Perhaps not an inspiring increase on 2014 but i will plead Real Life getting busier.
Perhaps not an inspiring increase on 2014 but i will plead Real Life getting busier.
Within that 109bn, my Plex investment made me 31bn ISK (vs 6bn in 2014). I started the year with 72 Plex and ended the year with 94 Plex. I bought 22 Plex in March for 798m each. My average cost per Plex is 711m ISK vs todays price of 1.1bn ISK. This has been a superb investment.
The rest of the 109bn was made through trading and manufacturing, as detailed in my blog post My Current Business Operations.
Given how busy Real Life has been i have not really changed what i sell much. If anything, i have started selling the T2 variants and some Blueprints that typically sell for over 1bn ISK.
Therefore, when i put that altogether in the mix, and my Trading / Manufacturing made me 78bn ISK in 2015 vs 90bn ISK in 2014 which is a fairer reflection of real life being busier.
Monthly Profits
My monthly profits have varied from a small loss(!) in December to 20bn in November.
I am increasingly finding that my Plex investment is making me 3-4bn per month, sometimes more. In December the price of Plex fell which, despite positive trading profits, pushed me into a loss. I honestly have no idea what i will ever do with my Plex holdings. I have plenty of ideas how CCP could allow those of us who hold Plex to use it as collateral to make an EVE banking system but this is for another day.
Another way of looking at my monthly profits is to ask what is the monthly profit as a % of my wealth (i.e. Return on Capital Employed per month). I tend to make between 0 and 7% ROCE each month. In other words, my wealth tends to rise by 0 - 7% per month.
Make up of Wealth
My aim is to ensure all my wealth is trying to make a profit.
Hence ISK in my wallet is not very helpful, it is not making me any profit at all, and never will - though i tend to operate with 10bn ISK in my wallet at any time to cover daily business costs. That is how i roll.
Also, items for sale in my hangers is of no use - right now that is running at 10bn ISK also which i need to reduce. These tend to be items that i once wanted to sell but for whatever reason are no longer in demand or items waiting to be shipped out to the selling locations.
As at the end of 2016 i had sell orders of 171bn ISK and 104bn of Plex all trying to make a profit for me.
Plex Account
I started investing in Plex back in February 2014 (at a starting cost of 636m per Plex!).
My reasons for investing in Plex i detailed in an early post but in summary i find this is the best way of investing surplus ISK to hold its value in the game (i.e. an inflation hedge).
Since then i have entered the Plex market a further 5 times and now own 94 Plex, valued at 104bn ISK. I last entered the Plex market in March 2015. My total cost has been 67bn ISK - so a nice tidy profit.
One side effect of this 104bn ISK of Plex is that a 5% fall in the price of Plex will reduce my wealth by 5bn ISK.
I started investing in Plex back in February 2014 (at a starting cost of 636m per Plex!).
My reasons for investing in Plex i detailed in an early post but in summary i find this is the best way of investing surplus ISK to hold its value in the game (i.e. an inflation hedge).
Since then i have entered the Plex market a further 5 times and now own 94 Plex, valued at 104bn ISK. I last entered the Plex market in March 2015. My total cost has been 67bn ISK - so a nice tidy profit.
One side effect of this 104bn ISK of Plex is that a 5% fall in the price of Plex will reduce my wealth by 5bn ISK.
Hence, in the December Plex price fall, my total wealth actually went backwards despite positive trading profits due to the fall in the value of my Plex holdings.
Sunday, 17 January 2016
i was ganked - back a while ago
I found this lurking in my drafts from quite a while ago (ok, a few months at best).
A fine example of me not practicing what i preach and thinking i could quickly move some raw materials to my production facilities in Sobesaki.
Bottom line is that my T1 Indi was trying to carry 400m ISK of raw materials and got ganked warping off the gate after the jump.
What i like about Eve is the willingness of the players to talk about it and provide advice . . . . . . see below:
Some good advice on why 100m is the limit.
Baldrick UK > ouch
Koselig > Never move more than 100m in a t1 indy
Raidjinn > no never move more than 20mil
Baldrick UK > good points
Baldrick UK > how much was i moving? 400m?
Koselig > Abit over 400m
Baldrick UK > ah, hope you got enough of it :)
Koselig > Vexors usually kill stuff 120++ and nadoes from 250 and up, depending on how bored they are
Baldrick UK > ok, thanks for all that
Koselig > Nice doing business with you and good luck in the future. Im off to bed. I hope you will prosper in the future
Baldrick UK > thanks @)
Baldrick UK > )
Koselig > Check out freight services btw, lots cheaper than getting ganked :P
Koselig > o/
Way back in May 2013 i was advising using Courier Contracts for cargo over 100m ISK. I should take my own advice!
A fine example of me not practicing what i preach and thinking i could quickly move some raw materials to my production facilities in Sobesaki.
Bottom line is that my T1 Indi was trying to carry 400m ISK of raw materials and got ganked warping off the gate after the jump.
What i like about Eve is the willingness of the players to talk about it and provide advice . . . . . . see below:
Some good advice on why 100m is the limit.
Baldrick UK > ouch
Koselig > Never move more than 100m in a t1 indy
Raidjinn > no never move more than 20mil
Baldrick UK > good points
Baldrick UK > how much was i moving? 400m?
Koselig > Abit over 400m
Baldrick UK > ah, hope you got enough of it :)
Koselig > Vexors usually kill stuff 120++ and nadoes from 250 and up, depending on how bored they are
Baldrick UK > ok, thanks for all that
Koselig > Nice doing business with you and good luck in the future. Im off to bed. I hope you will prosper in the future
Baldrick UK > thanks @)
Baldrick UK > )
Koselig > Check out freight services btw, lots cheaper than getting ganked :P
Koselig > o/
Way back in May 2013 i was advising using Courier Contracts for cargo over 100m ISK. I should take my own advice!
Friday, 1 January 2016
My Current Business Operations
As we enter 2016 it is worth me taking stock of my business on Eve.
My golden rules
I have two golden rules:
What i can do
My alts have the skills to trade, manufacture, mine, interplanetary interaction and invent to a reasonable degree.
Of these, i don't mine (i enjoy the relaxation of it all, the the comradery but it is a low ISK making venture and i certainly can't get it anywhere close to a Plex a month), i don't invent (never really got my head around it) and i put Interplanetary interaction on the back burner given it was a bit of a pain to keep going and an uncertain income (and the clicking to set up a new planet is somewhat mind numbing).
I also have a small POS tower in the Sobaseki system - which is doing nothing as i consider what, if anything, i plan on doing with it. Gives me a sense of owning something in space though. Sometimes i sit in its shield pondering what could be.
I used to trade Plexes but i found that also a pain to keep on top of. Made some ok ISK but nothing spectacular.
Furthermore, real life is busy which leaves me with the weekend and perhaps a week night or two to operate with.
What i actually do
That leaves me doing Trading and Manufacturing.
I have narrowed down what i manufacture to some T1 and T2 items. My aim is to find items where there is low competition (and so low demand and in low volume). I find that items that meet the criteria of low demand / low volume tend to have high profit margins (i.e. not much price sensitivity). I can't charge any price but i can charge a high price.
Very broadly, i make about 6bn ISK per month from trading and manufacturing.
Add in the rise in the 94 Plex whch gives me an additional 5bn per month.
In all, my wealth from Trading + Manufacturing + Plex wealth appreciation gives me 11bn per month.
The Center of my Operations - Jita
I don't sell anything in Jita - as always, i buy items from Jita Sell orders to ship to my trading hubs around Eve. I don't place Buy orders in Jita (in fact, i dont place Buy orders anywhere, i always buy from Sell orders).
All items that i buy from all stations and all items i manufacture get shipped to Jita first. They are then shipped to their end destinations. It makes life easier to control that way.
Manufacturing
I manufacture out of Sobaseki.
I have blueprint originals for all my T1 items. None of them are researched - i don't compete on cost. For the T2 items, i have BPCs where relevant.
I manufacture if it is cheaper than buying from Sell orders at Jita.
I use my Obelisk to transport the raw materials from Jita to Sobaeski and then to transport the finished items back to Jita. One jump, so quite easy to do.
Core Trading Hubs
I operate in the four key trading hubs: Amarr; Dodixie; Hek; and Rens.
I find Amarr quite competitive and so i don't tend to stock my full range of products (gets too painful updating the price every time i log in).
Dodixie is my favorite given the competition is low but the demand good.
Hek and Rens are steady income makers - nothing dramatic but the two alts that look after Hek and Rens make at least a Plex worth if ISK each a month.
Peripheral Trading Hubs
I also sell almost my complete range of products in five other regions.
Very little updating to do - i am often the only person selling these products in those regions.
About once a week i need to replenish some items that have been sold. Slow business but a nice steady stream of income. For not a lot of work i suspect they all add up to making a Plex worth of ISK a month.
Null Sec Trading
I set up a trading post in H-PA29-1 in the Venal region. Put about 8 billion ISK into the venture several months ago.
Having sold a princely sum of 600m ISK of goods i can safely say this Null Sec venture idea is not yet working.
Hence, i am now looking for a new place to set up shop. I want to make a null sec or low sec trading operation work - so i will stick at it.
Hauling
I, of course, don't haul my items from Jita to the end destination. I contract all my hauling to New Evolution Express. I use their "Priority" service every time. Never failed me yet. Cheaper than the other Hauling businesses on offer (though, i am purely hauling in High Sec).
My golden rules
I have two golden rules:
- Every venture must have the ability to earn a Plex a month per account.
- I must not take up more than 45 minutes per day doing this and be able to achieve the Plex per month by just operating at weekends if need be.
What i can do
My alts have the skills to trade, manufacture, mine, interplanetary interaction and invent to a reasonable degree.
Of these, i don't mine (i enjoy the relaxation of it all, the the comradery but it is a low ISK making venture and i certainly can't get it anywhere close to a Plex a month), i don't invent (never really got my head around it) and i put Interplanetary interaction on the back burner given it was a bit of a pain to keep going and an uncertain income (and the clicking to set up a new planet is somewhat mind numbing).
I also have a small POS tower in the Sobaseki system - which is doing nothing as i consider what, if anything, i plan on doing with it. Gives me a sense of owning something in space though. Sometimes i sit in its shield pondering what could be.
I used to trade Plexes but i found that also a pain to keep on top of. Made some ok ISK but nothing spectacular.
Furthermore, real life is busy which leaves me with the weekend and perhaps a week night or two to operate with.
What i actually do
That leaves me doing Trading and Manufacturing.
I have narrowed down what i manufacture to some T1 and T2 items. My aim is to find items where there is low competition (and so low demand and in low volume). I find that items that meet the criteria of low demand / low volume tend to have high profit margins (i.e. not much price sensitivity). I can't charge any price but i can charge a high price.
Very broadly, i make about 6bn ISK per month from trading and manufacturing.
Add in the rise in the 94 Plex whch gives me an additional 5bn per month.
In all, my wealth from Trading + Manufacturing + Plex wealth appreciation gives me 11bn per month.
The Center of my Operations - Jita
I don't sell anything in Jita - as always, i buy items from Jita Sell orders to ship to my trading hubs around Eve. I don't place Buy orders in Jita (in fact, i dont place Buy orders anywhere, i always buy from Sell orders).
All items that i buy from all stations and all items i manufacture get shipped to Jita first. They are then shipped to their end destinations. It makes life easier to control that way.
Manufacturing
I manufacture out of Sobaseki.
I have blueprint originals for all my T1 items. None of them are researched - i don't compete on cost. For the T2 items, i have BPCs where relevant.
I manufacture if it is cheaper than buying from Sell orders at Jita.
I use my Obelisk to transport the raw materials from Jita to Sobaeski and then to transport the finished items back to Jita. One jump, so quite easy to do.
Core Trading Hubs
I operate in the four key trading hubs: Amarr; Dodixie; Hek; and Rens.
I find Amarr quite competitive and so i don't tend to stock my full range of products (gets too painful updating the price every time i log in).
Dodixie is my favorite given the competition is low but the demand good.
Hek and Rens are steady income makers - nothing dramatic but the two alts that look after Hek and Rens make at least a Plex worth if ISK each a month.
Peripheral Trading Hubs
I also sell almost my complete range of products in five other regions.
Very little updating to do - i am often the only person selling these products in those regions.
About once a week i need to replenish some items that have been sold. Slow business but a nice steady stream of income. For not a lot of work i suspect they all add up to making a Plex worth of ISK a month.
Null Sec Trading
I set up a trading post in H-PA29-1 in the Venal region. Put about 8 billion ISK into the venture several months ago.
Having sold a princely sum of 600m ISK of goods i can safely say this Null Sec venture idea is not yet working.
Hence, i am now looking for a new place to set up shop. I want to make a null sec or low sec trading operation work - so i will stick at it.
Hauling
I, of course, don't haul my items from Jita to the end destination. I contract all my hauling to New Evolution Express. I use their "Priority" service every time. Never failed me yet. Cheaper than the other Hauling businesses on offer (though, i am purely hauling in High Sec).
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