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Saturday, 4 January 2025

Twitch - my subs, gift subbing and related charities donations + Patreon fees = £15,000

Almost £15,000 gifted

I am a late arriver to twitch.  I think i started watching content in around 2022.  I focus almost purely on Eve Online.

And my first gift sub was in May 2023 to ContempoEnterprises who is still going strong.

Since then i now pay monthly subs to some content creators i like, get involved in gifting subs, donate to Charities fronted by Eve content creators on Twitch and contribute to Patreon fees.

So, i wondered how much in total i had spent in total since then to 31 December 2024.

The answer is almost £15,000.

. . . . . . and its all in my budget, so no worries there.


Monthly Subs (=£370)

I currently have monthly subs for 7 content creators.  They come at about £5 per month.

contempoenterprises (20 months subbed)

oz_eve (19 months subbed)

eve_university (14 months subbed)

funinc (13 months subbed)

bigglesworthxd (4 months subbed)

theoneandonlysidar (3 months subbed)

nth_dimensional (1 months subbed)



Gift Subs (=£8,620)

I have gifted 2,155 subs.

This is where i gift a monthly sub to a specific or random member of the audience.  I can gift anywhere from 1 to 100 subs at any one time.  And i suspect i have done the complete range.

(I had to recall the content creators i had gifted to work this out, the Twitch Wallet Payment History page stops working quite quickly).

I suspect the average price is £4 per sub - it varies with discounts for volume and seasonal discounts.

I will say right now, Twitch do it well and they know what they are doing: starting or sustaining a hype train is exhilarating; gifting with less than a minute to go on the hype train is great fun; taking content creators to new records puts me on a high.


oz_eve - gifted 1597 subs

raff_about_it - gifted 152 subs

theoneandonlysidar - gifted 147 subs

contempoenterprises - gifted 117 subs

dangerous_d666 - gifted 50 subs

nth_dimensional - gifted 45 subs

schadsquatch - gifted 19 subs

funinc - gifted 10 subs

crashnaps - gifted 6 subs

sniperkrizz - gifted 6 subs

asuralite - gifted 1 subs

imperiumnews - gifted 1 subs

milkonedge - gifted 1 subs

moon_wolf83 - gifted 1 subs

spacedoutblonde - gifted 1 subs

uedamascout - gifted 1 subs



Charities (=£5,070)

Eve players often have 24 hour charity streams for their favourite causes which i donate to.

schadsquatch / ExtraLife $1570

spacedoutblonde / ExtraLife $1185

sokaars_legions / ExtraLife $3207

contempoenterprises / Cancer Charity £300

I know there are one or two others i have done but can't find the records of.


In the (UK) tax year to April 2024, i spent another £7,400 on Charitable donations which will only include £300 of the above - tax to overseas charities does not get any tax relief so i don't record this on the Tax Return.  In the UK charity donations are paid out of gross income and therefore when i donate to UK charities the first 20% of the overpaid tax goes to the charity and then the following 25% comes back to me.  Hence, if i donate £80 to a charity then the charity gets an additional £20 and i get £25 back.


Patreon - Eve related (=£794)

I also contribute to Patreon for the following Eve Content generators, some monthly and some annually.

Xre Sloracknor for 51 months, ongoing =$510 (since 2020) (this is evetycoon)

The Oz (Oz_Eve) for 1 year, ongoing =£224

Declarations of War for 4 months, ongoing =$60


What for 2025?

Well, this all depends on my year end bonus at work which i will know in January.

Thursday, 2 January 2025

Jita - my central distribution warehouse

I would say 90% of what i sell is bought from Sell Orders in Jita.

10% of what i sell i buy outside of Jita.  These are typically Blueprints that come from NPCs in other Regions.


How this worked historically

If one of my Trade locations needed one of those Blueprints that are not found in Jita to sell i would Buy it at source from the Sell Order and have it couriered.

That was quite a tedious mechanical operation requiring my spreadsheet to remember where these items could be sourced from.  And made for tedious couriering of say one item for 500m collateral from the back of beyond and so only 10m of fees,


Jita is now the central warehouse

The aim now is for 100% of all items to leave from Jita.

This is much easier to manage and avoids all the issues of multiple clicking to open to characters to buy these items.  Loads of clicks.

Therefore, what i now do is buy up a stock of these non-Jita items and courier them to Jita to sit in inventory and wait to be couriered to the eventual Trade location to be sold.

So, every so often i buy up several billion isk worth to courier to Jita.

Of course, these items are couriered twice in their life cycle vs once for items sourced in Jita.  I typically pay 2% courier fees.  Therefore, what i do is add this 2% to the cost of the item so that when i sell it i recover the cost of this additional courier leg.

But it is well worth it.  Life is much easier now.

The downside is that i have isk tied up in inventory.

. . . .  . . i may be mistaken but i think this is the business model FedEx fall into which worked so successfully.